okey, teen wolf edits are on queue for tomorrow evening (my time), and with this i’m off. See ya on sunday people!

sleepy as hell, but working on teen wolf edits

downloading the 1080p of fireflies (as i write here is at 42%), i hope that it’ll finish soon and i’ll be able to do some edits this evening/night or y’all hae to wait until monday since i’ll be at the beachouse from tomorrow ‘till sunday…

qhuinn:

fannishtalk:

I’ve been trying to formulate my reaction both within the story to Derek/Ms Blake and how fandom has responded to it, and it’s all kind of messy in my head, but I’m going to put it out there because maybe other people are feeling the same.  What I’m NOT doing is saying this is the only/right way to feel.  It’s how I personally feel.  I am not attacking anyone’s opinion, but I am not going to soft shoe it either and be supportive of things I don’t understand/agree with - especially when I feel it’s damaging in some way.  I am coming at this from the perspective of a Sterek shipper, and I don’t consider that a caveat at all, but rather a starting point.

1)  Within the show itself:

I think these two posts by Suaine and Qhuinn have some very valid points about HOW the start of Derek and Ms Blake’s romance begins.  It’s very cliche, much more so even than Scott overhearing Allison’s phonecall and immediately fixating on her.  That was designed to fit within the concept of werewolves, anchors, etc.  What Davis did with Derek and Ms Blake was straight up create a romantic relationship out of cheesy music and a hand stretched out in help.  More problematic is the fact that they used the heteronormative expectations of viewers to create the romantic relationship in viewer minds without ever having them speak a word to each other.  This is problematic in two-fold ways.  First, it is based not on character chemistry or flirty interactions but on heteronormative romantic tropes -  it’s purely designed to create a sense of romance with zero buildup/work.  It’s like shipping a couple from the cover of a romance novel, without bothering to read the actual book.  We all know Derek, but we don’t know Ms Blake and it’s a disservice to her character to have their romance start via cliches and not character moments.  The second reason that it is so problematic is that they did this in the season after they discovered the popularity of Sterek, a fanon romantic relationship built of on many more scenes/chemistry, etc than Derek and Ms Blake were given.  Yet Davis decided to straight up use heteronormative tropes and audience conditioning to show a het romance happening.  Knowing how much more effort has to be made for non-Sterek fans see a romantic relationship between Stiles&Derek because of those same heteronormative assumptions - despite certain similarities between this scene in 3x03 to Derek saving Stiles in 2x02 -  Davis went with the easy, heteronormative cliche route to show the start to Derek and Ms Blake’s romance.  It bugs me, because it feels like Davis decided it was just easier to write a het romance and see how fans react, then to go for the harder writing of a Sterek slowburn because it bucks the assumptions of the non-shipping audience.

Now, while I find the start to their romance extremely forced, it’s possible that in the next few eps they will have more scenes together that show their chemistry/makes it more romantic.  It was a bad start, but it could get better.  And I personally am not opposed to Derek (or Stiles) having a relationship with someone else so long as it’s transitory.  And given Jeff Davis has a bedside book titled “How to Torment Derek Hale” it would be probably the most shocking thing the show has ever done if their relationship works out.  So while it’s off to an inauspicious start, and while I’m unhappy with Davis’ choice to do it at all, I’m not going to assume I’ll hate it.  I won’t ship it, but we’ll see how the season goes.

2)  How fandom reacts:

So, I really don’t like when slash fans respond to a love interest by hating on the character purely for being a woman and love interest.  I think we’ve all seen the cardboard cutouts for characters many shows call love interests and are duly nervous - but insulting her purely for her gender is out of line.

On the other hand, I really don’t like when Sterek fans fall over themselves to show support for Derek/Ms Blake, either out of some misguided sense of fairness/not wanting to seem like a crazy shipper or because they truly like it.  Here’s where things get dicy and I’m not saying people should do this or that, my way is right, whatever.  I’m explaining my personal feeling.  You know why I don’t like it when Sterek fans support Derek/Ms Blake?  I feel like Davis is testing our resolve, seeing if he can convince people that Derek/someone else or Stiles/someone else is an acceptable substitute for Sterek, which would be harder for him to write.  I feel like every time a Sterek shipper ships Derek/Ms Blake after seeing only the cliche romantic trope of their meeting, the probability of Sterek going canon decreases a little because it’s telling Davis that it’s ok to substitute an easier het romance for a m/m romance between two not immediately identified as gay characters.  So honestly, every time I see a name on my dashboard who I know ships Sterek saying they also love Derek/Ms Blake I flinch a lot.  I’m not invalidating anyone’s right to feel that way, I’m explaining how I feel when I see it, which is a different thing.

So, my take away is not that Derek/Ms Blake is a threat to Sterek because I doubt it is long term.  It’s that I’m already side eyeing it because it didn’t start in a way that supports the characters themselves.  And it’s that I’m worried Davis is testing Sterek fans to see if he can get away with substituting a het romance instead.

“It is based not on character chemistry or flirty interactions but on heteronormative romantic tropes.”

I agree 100% with this. Well said!

“It feels like Davis decided it was just easier to write a het romance and see how fans react, then to go for the harder writing of a Sterek slowburn because it bucks the assumptions of the non-shipping audience.”

About this, though. I can see your point and why you reached this conclusion. I admit it’d look like that for some people right now. But I still trust this man and what he’s doing. We’re only three episodes in, we know nothing of what’s to come this season yet. I think this was a risky move but I want to believe it was a calculated one. We still don’t know who Ms Blake is or what her arc will be. And they are clearly not shying away from Sterek, if those two first episodes are of any indicative. I just can’t believe Jeff Davis would go the “easy” way, he loves his work too much for that. But he obviously has his own vision for the show. And it might not match fandom’s all the time. But we should respect that. And above all, be patient. There are still 9 episodes left of this first part of season 3. Anything could still happen!

Anyway, the reason why I’m reblogging this is the second point about the fandom reaction. I want to admit publicly that I felt exactly the same way. There was a wave of shaming done immediately after the episode aired. People who expected the “crazy shippers” to rip Ms Blake apart. And I think that created a mood where people was afraid of voicing their discomfort with what had happened in the episode. That’s part of the reason why I wrote my meta, tbh.

Whatever the reason why someone didn’t like that scene, it’s a valid point. I know fandom is all about policing and controlling what other people think because that makes us feel understood, but maybe we should remember it’s okay to disagree sometimes as long as everyone involved is being respectful. Of course I don’t want to see misogynistic crap said about a female character because of a slash ship, who likes that? But if a Sterek shipper says, I don’t like this because I ship Sterek, I can understand this and respect that reasoning. The same way that someone getting in the middle of Scallison would be a problem for the Scallison shippers.

Shipping is a powerful thing. We all do it, and yet, we tend to forget what it means when it comes to other people’s ships. That’s why respect is so important, in my opinion.